Introduction
As we saw in Chapter One, aside from fulfilling children’s international rights to information and consultation, other research (McIntosh et al, 2008; Fortin et al, 2012) has shown that consulting children about arrangements when parents separate brings mental health and wellbeing benefits to young people. Yet, such a process may also contain risks or may not be something children themselves want. This chapter now focuses on the interviews with relationship professionals working with or for separated parents and their children outside of the mediation context, outlining whether, in principle, they believed that young people ought to be given a voice in the decision-making when parents separate and the psychological, wellbeing and agency benefits (and risks) of doing so. It also explores their views on child-inclusive mediation (CIM)’s role in giving young people a voice. Its analysis compares these views with those of young people in focus groups on these questions. Unless otherwise indicated, the findings in this chapter from young people are the focus group participants’ views. However, where young people who engaged in CIM comment on the principle of giving young people a voice, these are also discussed, with their experiences of the process and outcomes in practice discussed in Chapters Four and Five, respectively.
The mental health and wellbeing benefits to young people of recognizing them as subjects and not merely objects of decision-making that the relationship professionals and young people raise should provide impetus for the conceptual, statutory and procedural changes needed to realize the article 12 compliant system we envision as outlined in Chapter Six.
Hearing from young people: the views of the relationship professionals
The relationship professionals were unanimous – young people need an outlet to process their feelings following parental separation. There was less agreement on whether CIM should be the preferred forum, with three professionals expressing reservations about the process or considering that children’s needs are better met in, or alongside, counselling. Almost all thought that young people should have a voice in the decision-making process and spoke of the health and wellbeing benefits this brings. There was also strong support for a more holistic child-centred response to parental separation than at present.
An outlet
The relationship professionals were unanimous that young people need an outlet to process their feelings when parents separate. However, three out of ten expressed reservations
Fran Clarkson thought children need a “neutral space” in which to process their feelings and that a discrete therapeutic intervention that is “just for the child” is preferable to CIM because the latter “implies that the child is being included in … what the parents are doing”. She expressed concern that CIM might unnecessarily burden the child. She favoured an early triage of the child’s needs and a referral accordingly. This might be into CIM, but would more likely be to child or family therapy, sometimes alongside CIM.
‘It is so powerful in so many ways for a young person to be heard and to be given a situation where they can … say how they feel and pass those opinions via someone else to their parents. … It is not about giving the full power and control to the child or young person to say, “whatever you decide, is going to be what will happen”, but it is about being heard.’
Giving young people “a situation” (space) “where they can … say how they feel and pass those opinions via someone else to their parents” (voice) in which they are “heard” (audience) and what they say is taken into account even if they are not given “full power and control … [to] decide” (influence) is powerful, in the view of most of the relationship professionals.
Fleur Dowson thought that it was essential to give young people a forum in which to “offload” and that it was vital for professionals to listen, as you can gain more from the young person’s account than the parent’s, as the parent “might not be attached to the child or in tune with them”. Jacob Beardsley thought that it is “always worthwhile talking to children”, but he lamented the fact that despite there being “a whole world of talk” about the need to listen to children and young adults, “we all seem to struggle with the idea that actually we are going to talk to them”. He also thought that inroads into hearing from children systematically when parents separate are unlikely until there is an acknowledgement of just how difficult it is for parents, already in a state of emotional turmoil, to be open to the terrifying prospect that in giving their child any element of choice, the child might choose against them. Parents often
Voice not choice
‘You don’t consult with the child. It’s not the child’s choice … You will tell the child what is going to happen, but you do not burden the child with what is not his or her choice, and when the choice is made, you explain it, and you understand what the child will be feeling [but] … you do not go to the child for advice about what to do.’
The other relationship professionals supported hearing from children but distinguished this from allowing young people to be the decision-makers. Kay Eagles encapsulated this viewpoint. She strongly supported CIM and saw the skilled mediator’s role as one of helping parents “to understand that it is absolutely not about the child being the decision-maker, making decisions, or indeed making choices, but it is about the fact that the child is an interested person in this, and it is their lives that are going to change forever and enormously”.
Non-child-inclusive mediation interventions and support
Despite majority support for CIM, most relationship professionals favoured the opportunity and space for the child to process their feelings in a therapeutic environment. Several
The referral might be as an alternative to CIM or alongside the process. Some felt that counselling in a school setting could be helpful, and some that a discrete, independent offering outside the school environment might be best as schools have a relationship with the parents. Others considered that there is a place for peer forums to support young people, online and in person. If they are sufficiently neutral, grandparents can provide stability and support to children when parents separate.
The views of the young people
The views of the young people we spoke to reflect those consistently reported in this jurisdiction (Smart and Neale, 1999; Walker and Lake-Carroll, 2014; Barlow et al, 2017a) and internationally (Cashmore and Parkinson, 2008; Parkinson and Cashmore, 2008: 64; Bell et al, 2021) – they want a voice in the decision-making when parents separate. They desire ‘a bigger voice more of the time’ (Carson et al, 2018: 68).
A right
In the interviews and focus groups, young people were unanimous; passionately, they believed that children should have a right to be heard (if they so wish) when parents separate, and adults must facilitate that right, listen to and act upon children’s views.
In the focus groups, Farah told us, “Just because I am a kid, it doesn’t mean that my parents’ decisions are the be-all and end-all; I do have a right. If I am uncomfortable or if I feel unsafe or whatever it is, I have a right to be heard.” Grace felt that failing to consult young people “when it’s their lives and their time that is changing” would be “really stupid”, pointing
Many young people interviewed echoed the focus group participants’ frustration. Anna said that for young people, “not to be able to have a voice seems really crazy”. Harry said that it would be “pretty selfish” to deny children their rights. Alfie’s advice to parents considering the process was: “If you want what’s best for your child, then let them have a go because it will release a lot of stress from their chest and make them a lot more of a happier person.” Joel’s advice to young people considering the process was that “having your opinion expressed is one of the most valuable things to do and can help things for the better for you”.
None of the young people in interview spoke of United Nations Convention of the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) rights (a closely guarded adult secret), yet all instinctively believed that children should have the right to be heard. Jonny told us that young people “should have a right to … make the decisions” as “it’s their family too”. Equally important was the parents’ “duty” to listen to their children (Greg). While ignorant of their article 12 rights, instinctively, young people thought they ought to be given ‘space’, ‘voice’, ‘audience’ and ‘influence’ (Lundy, 2007: 933) in decision-making.
The Family Justice Young People’s Board (FJYPB) comprises young people with ‘direct experience of the family justice system or an interest in children’s rights’ (FJYPB website).1 Consequently, it was unsurprising that among the focus group participants, advocacy for child-inclusive processes was often framed from a rights perspective and with a level of awareness around young people’s rights in court proceedings that was, understandably, less evident in the interviews with young people who had experienced CIM. Craig, for example,
A given
With the caveat that mediators must have the requisite skills, young people thought hearing from children in mediation should be a given. Martin said, “If it gets the voice of the child out, why wouldn’t you do it?” In interview, Harry thought that CIM should “definitely” be made available to children nationally because probably without it, “their voices would sort of be lost”. This strong support among young people for mechanisms to facilitate hearing from them (‘space’ and ‘voice’) reflects consistent pleas from young people in research internationally, as mentioned earlier.
Voice and choice
Whereas the relationship professionals who supported hearing from children stressed that the adults remained the decision-makers, the young people were clear that not only should they have the right to be heard, but, in line with the children’s autonomy principle (Daly, 2018a; 2018b), their views should be taken seriously and generally followed. Blake emphasized that parents should listen to what their children wanted, and if this did not coincide with the parents’ preferences, the parents “should probably go with what the child might want as they will probably know what they want best”.
Universal
In the focus groups (reflecting similar messages from the young people who had experienced CIM), participants thought there should be flexibility over the age at which young people are heard, recognizing that young people mature
Reflecting the views of his peers, Max said that young people “should be involved as much as they can just because it’s their life that’s being decided about … you should [not] … let your parents decide … what’s going to happen in your life when it’s not their life that they are making decisions for!”
In the older group (16 plus), Aleah thought that all children should be given the option of attending CIM because even if a young child talked about “random” things, the parents’ approach would be “more child focused”. She regretted not having been given the option of participating, reflecting that if this had been an option, “at least you could have said years later, well I was offered this at that stage, whether you took it … it’s nice to have known that that opportunity is there”.
UNCRC article 5 recognizes children’s right to parental guidance and direction to secure the enjoyment of their rights consistent with their evolving capacities (Tobin and Varadan, 2019). Furthermore, article 5 ‘recognises the child, irrespective of age, as an active participant in their own development, entitled to be afforded opportunities for the gradual acquisition of greater autonomy’ (Lansdown, 2022: 122). Young people we spoke to saw it as the responsible adults’ duty to think
‘The children who should actually be listened to are the ones that won’t get listened to … because the parents will say, “No, I don’t want you to mess with my child, no, no, no, they speak to me, they don’t need to speak to strangers, you know, I want to keep them young”.’
Participants in the younger group were similarly frustrated that young people do not get “to choose whether they are involved or not, even though it is their life!” (Natasha).
Non-child-inclusive mediation interventions and support
While the young people viewed CIM as an essential mechanism for facilitating children’s voices, like the relationship professionals, they did not see it as the only outlet. The online FJYPB focus groups considered young people’s information and support needs when parents separate. One group canvassed the possibility of a ‘buddy system’ in schools, since support need not come from adults only. Others suggested support from school pastoral teams and appropriate therapy or counselling. Now an adult, Louise said she had not appreciated how her parents’ acrimonious divorce affected her confidence at work and trust in relationships. Her employer paid for counselling for her divorce trauma, which she had found beneficial. She reflected that having it earlier “would have saved me a lot of heartache”.
Consistent with international research (Carson et al, 2018: 94) and calls for skilled, empathetic support from key ‘first responders’ such as teachers (Murch, 2018: 201), focus group participants said schools should inform them of their rights and provide support when parents separate, as discussed further in Chapter Three.
The following sections outline the perceived risks and benefits of CIM, identified by both relationship professionals and young people.
The risks of child-inclusive mediation
Both groups were alive to the possible risks of CIM and emphasized the need for highly skilled mediators to conduct this work. Margot Hendon reflected the majority view: “I think it takes tremendous skill to create … an interaction with that [young] person [in] which … they feel that they have been listened to.”
Pressure
The relationship professionals who expressed reservations about including young people in mediation feared it risked putting too much pressure on the child, drawing the children into the separation to an inappropriate extent. Fran Clarkson said that she “got” the arguments about giving children a voice so that
As Butler et al (2002: 98) argue, children are involved in their parents’ separation and the emotional turmoil that often accompanies this, whether we allow them to be involved in the decision-making or not. The young people were pragmatic; parental separation can be traumatic, so voicing your opinions through a neutral third party, such as a mediator, might relieve some pressure. As Harry, in interview, told us, “[Whether] you are talking to your parents or a mediator, there is always going to be some level of pressure on you.” Becky concluded that parental separation is “inevitably” hurtful for a child. Therefore, if we give them “a platform to be able to raise kind of how they are upset about it and being able to speak about what is bothering them about arrangements” (‘space’ and a ‘voice’), “surely that’s better than just leaving them to get on with what’s decided” (thereby denying them their right to ‘audience’ and ‘influence’).
Layla felt that children could feel muddled and easily influenced by their parents’ accounts. Talking to a mediator, who is not involved in the family, helps the young person to put the situation into perspective and lets parents hear the child’s views “without the influence of either parent”. Far from adding pressure, therefore, giving a child a voice could relieve pressure, particularly for young people whose relationship with at least one parent is problematic. Nevertheless, alive to the possible pressure that children could be placed under, especially if their views contradicted the views of one parent, they underscored
Manipulation
Allied with the concern that consulting the child may put them under pressure, the relationship professionals and young people highlighted the risk that a parent might manipulate a child. Anna highlighted that the child’s views might be unreliable if a parent presses for child consultation to assist their case.
Parents not listening
As with feelings of pressure, when interviewed, Harry thought that with or without mediation, there was a risk that parents would not listen to or take the child’s views seriously but that “at least with mediation, there is another adult who understands the child and [can] … convey their message to the parents”. In his interview, Richard said they were more likely to listen to someone their age explaining the issue than a child.
Recognizing that parents may not want to hear their child’s views, focus group participants underscored the need for parents to put the child at the centre of the decision-making. Becky advised that parents must “take on board” what the child is saying (‘audience’ and ‘influence’), focusing on the child’s long-term interests rather than beating the other parent. Layla thought that “a lot of parents have that ‘I know my child best’ mindset, and no one else can tell me … how my child is”. She encouraged such parents to put their “pride aside” and “listen to the people who are trying to help you, and listen to your child”.
The benefits of child-inclusive mediation
The relationship professionals and young people spoke of mental health and welfare benefits, such as feeling less anxious and more reassured, that flowed from upholding their right to be heard. Dimopoulos (2021: 440) suggests that young people have a right to ‘decisional privacy’, that is a right to participate actively and meaningfully in decision-making about matters that affect them while demonstrating respect for their evolving capacity for autonomy. As conceptualized by Dimopoulos, decisional privacy is relational, recognizing that children’s rights and interests are intertwined with those of their parents and other family members (Dimopoulos, 2021: 442). This relational dimension is central to the ‘relational family autonomy’ concept we propose. Conceptualizing the approach this way should shift the current balance of autonomy between parents and young people when decisions are made out of court. The ‘Lundy Model of Child Participation’ then assists with how these conceptual changes may be operationalized. Facilitating the expression of young people’s views (‘space’ and ‘voice’) and respecting their evolving capacity for autonomy (‘audience’ and ‘influence’), our evidence shows, has mental health benefits for young people.
Informing the child
In the context of parental separation, the availability and accessibility of information for young people ‘is the crucial starting point in any child rights-based approach to dispensing justice’ (Stalford et al, 2017: 208). Research shows that, following parental separation, feelings of uncertainty and fear that decisions will be made without their involvement distresses children (Butler et al, 2002: 93; Barlow et al, 2017a: 20). The relationship professionals concurred that providing children with a mechanism for hearing their voices when parents separate informs them of what is happening, helping the child adjust to the separation. Lack of information
The focus group participants were adamant that when parents separate, young people need better information and support than is currently available. This information needed to be easily accessible, non-stigmatizing and tailored to the needs of individual children, particularly in cases featuring domestic abuse. It must be in a format and time that meets children’s needs individually, recognizing that some children prefer lots of information upfront, whereas others “might just want to slowly absorb what’s going on” (Becky). The information could come from various sources, particularly schools or via a trusted website. The focus group participants agreed, however, that CIM also had a place in providing young people with the information and support they needed at this emotionally challenging time in their lives. They suggested that when parents separate young people need information on the process (What needs to be sorted out? Who makes the decisions? How long will it take? What say would they have in decisions made?), the practicalities (What would change? What would stay the same?) and the support available, including how young people can access it.
Reflecting previous research (O’Quigley, 2000; Walker and Lake-Carroll, 2014; Barlow et al, 2017a; Carson et al, 2018), most said that they had not had sufficient information and that this had adversely affected their recovery from the parental separation. Jasmine, for example, disclosed that, unlike her younger sibling, she had had little information or support when her parents separated and had not known what was happening. Reflecting the relationship professionals’ views, she felt that this harmed her in later years. She said, “The separation developed
As will be seen in Chapter Four, the reported experiences of the young people confirmed what the relationship professionals believed to be the case; giving young people an outlet to help them process their grief and be better informed about the process can hugely benefit their psychological wellbeing and recovery. Having experienced CIM, Alfie thought the process would help other young people in his situation to bring “clarity to the kids”.
Reassuring the child
Several relationship professionals said that providing young people with an outlet can reassure them that they are not to blame for the separation. Shelly Jennings thought that young people are “like sponges, and if you don’t fill in the gaps … they will make up their own minds as to what’s going on … and they will typically blame themselves”. Fleur Dowson indicated that without a voice in the process, children often carry this sense of blame into adulthood, leading many to seek therapy at that stage.
Reflecting similar messages from the young people who experienced CIM, the focus group participants felt that giving young people a voice could provide valuable reassurance, particularly if coercive control or abuse is disclosed. Speaking to a neutral third party rather than a parent helps young people, in Layla’s view, to put their feelings into perspective.
Respecting the child
According rights respects the dignity of the bearer (Freeman, 2010). Listening to children is a positive symbol of respect (Lansdown, 2001). Several relationship professionals recognized that young people value being included in decision-making and that hearing from children accords respect. As Kay Eagles
The young people agreed that hearing from young people accords them with respect and dignity, as Freeman (2010) suggests, and they urged parents to take up the option of CIM. As Becky argued, giving young people a “platform” such as CIM through which to explain their feelings is “surely … better than just leaving them to get on with what’s decided”.
Improving family relationships
From the perspective of the relationship professionals who favoured CIM, one benefit is that it can help children and parents better understand the other’s position, improving relationships within the family. As Kay Eagles explained, “the sort of ‘we are all in it together’ bit can actually bring family members closer”.
The focus group attendees agreed that a child speaking to a mediator can help family dynamics. Reflecting the majority view, Aleah said that discussing child arrangements in CIM rather than directly between parents and children “keeps the family unit better”. Grace felt that denying children the right to be heard in mediation “is just completely shutting down any
Filtering and reframing
As discussed in Chapter Four, young people who had experienced CIM (but not the relationship professionals) raised filtering and reframing as allied benefits of hearing from children. That is the ability to filter, via a third party, messages that the young people realized might be hurtful for their parents to hear, coupled with the mediator’s skills in reframing those messages more palatably to the parents. The relationship professionals described higher-level psychological benefits to young people of speaking to a neutral third party, whereas the young people were recounting their own experiences. Consequently, these benefits may not have come readily to the relationship professionals’ minds.
The focus group participants also thought filtering messages through the mediator reduced the risk of parents distorting the child’s words. Aleah thought filtering via a mediator is preferable because hearing an unpalatable message from the child directly “doesn’t come across in the nicest way”. The mediator’s skill at reframing the message in a less hurtful way could, it was felt, help to calm the situation.
Whole family support on separation
Several relationship professionals emphasized that support for the parents was crucial for helping the child. Fran Clarkson said that supporting parents therapeutically to take a share of responsibility for and mourn the relationship breakdown “frees up the child” and could “take the weight off” their children’s shoulders. Without this support, parents often become locked in high-conflict court cases. She favoured an early assessment
Rosemary Allen strongly supported education for parents to understand their children’s feelings. She felt this is the primary way children could be supported when parents separate. Similarly, Clara Farley thought it was futile to give counselling to children unless the parental environment was improved, including how the parents spoke about one another. She too, therefore, favoured a ‘whole family’ approach in which parents gained an understanding of how their actions affected their children. Margot Hendon supported this view. She felt that counselling for children alone, in the absence of parents taking responsibility for their actions, “could let some parents off the hook”. She thought that there is an argument for compulsory parenting courses for separating parents to understand the child’s perspective and improve their ability to listen to their children. The young people’s comments were restricted to support for their peers rather than parents.
Conclusion
The relationship professionals and young people (in interviews and focus groups) were unanimous. Providing young people with an outlet to process their emotions when parents separate has benefits for their mental health and wellbeing. Most professionals and all young people agreed that CIM had a vital, although not exclusive, role to play in helping young people understand the legal processes, gain reassurance, and have their voices heard within the decision-making process.
A minority of relationship professionals felt that adults are the “judges” and that young people’s involvement should be restricted to explaining the decisions made. Critics of such a position have argued that vesting decision-making power in the hands of the adults risks silencing children’s voices and perpetuates an understanding of children as ‘dependent and passive recipients of adults’ actions’ (Lee, 2001: 8).
The staunch support for respecting the child’s decisional privacy (Dimopoulos, 2021; 2022) expressed by the young people accords with Tobin’s interpretation of article 12, that the measure does not simply give young people the right to an opportunity to influence the person who will make the
Establishing a framework of article 12 compliant direct support services of information, consultation, support and (where needed) representation for children and young people whose parents separate, accessible at the time of separation, and later as needed, as envisaged by the Family Solutions Group Report (2020) would go some way to meeting the information and support needs of young people whose parents separate as identified by the relationship professionals and young people. As noted in Chapter One, having first reconceptualized the approach to family separation so that its relational dimension is acknowledged and the autonomy of parents and their children in decision-making is rebalanced, we are analysing and reflecting on our data exploring CIM experiences through a UNCRC lens generally and article 12, in particular. In so doing, we are using Lundy’s notion that article 12 rights involve space, voice, audience and influence for young people. Appendix II sets out Lundy’s visualization of how a UNCRC article 12 model would work and the virtuous circle it would create. Appendix III provides a helpful checklist to ensure the model has been
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